Author: Felix --Subject to Change
Topic: Hypnagogia and Sleep Paralysis
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I could go find a site related to this, seeing as you guys aren't necessarily going to have any help or stories to relate, but I don't want to join a site in which this topic has been covered over and over and bumped until it drove everyone nuts.
Wikipedia on the subjects, as I think, despite some incredibility, it can give you a good explanation.
http://en.wikipedia.org...gogia
http://en.wikipedia.org...lysis
Often caused by stress or narcolepsy. I certainly have the first, but not to a degree that this condition should be normal, I don't think. I don't even have GAD.
So, basically, I'm just gonna start off, and, at the end, give an idea why I started this thread (as it seems premature to say now.
I get hypnagogic/-pompic hallucinations a couple times a month on average, almost always accompanied by sleep paralysis. It varies where some months there are none, and others it happens multiple times a week.
So, usually, I:
-sleep paralysis, obviously
-can open eyes, perhaps move wrists, ankles, neck
-feel a pressure down on my chest and/or pushing me sideways out of my bed
-am completely and utterly terrified
-panic and try to scream. can't open mouth, and sometimes gnash teeth until I can (read:until it wears off)
-hear noises, such as whispers, whistling, bumps, crashes
-know someone is there (no, no one is there unless these hallucinations are something else, but it is a state of knowing, not thinking)
And if I'm lucky:
-I can see a shadow figure standing near my bed. Always a male presence
-They talk to me... even better, very rare
-More wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_pe...ations
-I can hear random, but distinct voices
-Someone is choking me, or pinning my shoulders with their hands
-I'm about a thousand times more scared
In either case:
-I can't control it
-I'm sad, but relieved, when it ends
-I went to sleep again.
Oh, and once a very, very odd zombie-like dog was sitting at the foot of my bed. That was weird, but not accompanied by paralysis or panic, so I just hid my head, knowing I was just seeing it, and went back to sleep.
So, you guys:
-Have you ever, or do you regularly have these experiences?
-If so, what are your symptoms/what are they like?
-Any suggestions on how to prolong or induce them- anything from teas to mental exercise to gemstones, but let's stay away from the illegal things that are inevitably helpful, as I don't know how much mods would appreciate it.
If you want to know why I want to do this, as I keep saying it terrifies me...
-I love the adrenaline rush the fear gives me
-It releases my stress. I don't know why, but it makes me really giddy and happy. *
-I want to talk to my hallucination, and I never get to. Either I can't talk, he won't respond, or both. II want to see what it is and how my mind made it. And I'm obsessed with fantasy, so devil, guide, or simple hallucination, I'm interested.
That said, go ahead you guys. I'd love any reply, I think. I love learning about this stuff, and what's normal verses unique, and especially, like I requested, how to make it happen without taking illegal substances, intentionally losing sleep, or causing stress.
Author: tk
Topic: Re: Hypnagogia and Sleep Paralysis
(Reply #1 on Sept 11, 2009, 7:58pm)
Hm. Your post really, really caught my attention, probably because this is the first time someone else admits to having experienced these things. I've experience some of them, although I don't anymore and I am thankful for that.
-I used to be able to open my eyes but can't move
-felt terrified and panicked
-always tried to scream, but can't. at times I think I did scream but no one could hear me.
-felt like someone was holding/pinning me down
Sometimes stuff could get way awful, like
-hearing deep voices
-seeing things
Once I was visited by an old grandma who sat on a chair near my bed. I was convinced that it was a dream until her head suddenly disappeared and she got up and pinned me down so I couldn't move, and those symptoms (felt terrified, can open eyes but can't move, can't scream, etc.) occurred. When I could finally move I didn't want to go back to sleep.
And oftentimes those 'voices' or creatures would try to make me fly with them (often by pulling my legs up into the air first...well, at least it felt like someone was doing that). At this point I'd have to really really struggle to keep my eyes open and try to not to fall asleep again, because each time I felt like closing my eyes, 'they' would tug harder.
I just remembered that I wrote that one down in my diary. The entry was dated 5/4/07, and it sounds like this:Dear Diary-sama,
You know how I sometimes woke up in the middle of the night only to find that my body's all numb, right? Well, this time, it felt like someone was lifting my legs.
There were times when even a simple short nap could trigger this stuff. I hated that.
Although I really can't help you on how to make it happen because I really dunno how and because I really don't want it to happen to me again.
~**~
Hmm. Scientific explanation! 8)
From wikipedia:
Sleep paralysis occurs when the brain awakes from a REM state (Rapid eye movement [REM0 sleep is a normal stage of sleep characterised by the rapid movement of the eyes), but the body paralysis persists.
This leaves the person fully conscious, but unable to move. The paralysis can last from several seconds to several minutes "after which the individual may experience panic symptoms and the realization that the distorted perceptions were false".
Indeed, this one caught my attention. It's interesting, but I'm can't say I'm surprised. Felix would probably face confusion when she looks for answers as to why these things happen to her, but I should probably just shut up about it, eh? XD
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